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Originally posted by bilmore
You haven't been watching TV, have you?
So, when we try to stop these killers, are we playing god? Does that fit your definition? Do you perceive that everything we do to try to stop these killers is somehow morally equivalent to the actions and motivations of these killers? If you want to talk about soul, compassion, and conscience, and have people keep a straight face around you, consider that what we're doing ranks far higher on the moral scale then the actions of the Baathists trying to re-seat the murderous dictatorship, or the mullahs looking to rule by their personal vision of gawd, or the simple murderous thieves taking what they can because they can. If that concept staggers you, then your answer to Club about there being no point of communication is right.
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If we engage in torture, then we are no different from Saddam. Where do you derive the belief that it is okay to adopt the tactics of the Baathists and the mullahs and Al-Qaeda and not be just as morally culpable?
Because our motives are pure? Because we're better than them. Bullshit. If we are willing to torture, maim, and kill them all if we have to, then we are them. What makes us different is the fact that we are governed by laws, and we adhere to them. Pure power is not deemed an aceptable way to lead and govern.
If we throw all that aside, then we have nothing left to claim to be better. We have forfeited the high ground. What staggers me is that you can argue so vehemently about your individual rights and freedoms, but you deny that those rules apply to the Iraqis.
What is your basis for the distinction? That some of them want to kill us? What the fuck do you think we've been doing? That they want to impose their will and their way of life upon the citizens of Iraq? Isn't that what we're doing?
What the fuck, Bilmore? What the fuck?*
*(New board motto.)
