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Old 04-19-2005, 11:48 PM   #3050
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Originally posted by bilmore
But . . .

Wasn't the redistricting essentially an unfair Dem result, followed by an unfair Rep result? Granted, it was out of time when Delay accomplished his, but both sides gleefully went after an essentially undemocratic result that favored themselves - Delay et al just violated one procedural rule doing his. I see the Tex redistricting as a bunch of coniving assholes sticking it to each other serially, with equal lack of morality.
You are right about that. The Democrats stuck it to us in California. And now that the Governator is suggesting that some non-partisan group draw the lines, the Dems are screaming bloody murder.

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Originally posted by bilmore Aren't you as mad as the anti-abortion people as at Delay on Schiavo? Both issues involve a conflict of very basic, foundational moral beliefs, and so I'm not surprised you're outraged, but I think what you're outraged at is not what you think. I think it's such a basic belief to people that his comments about the judges didn't surprise me. In his mind (note that phrase, please), they're murderers.
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80% of the voters thought the Federal Government should stay out. Not 60, not 70 but 80%. He needs to just shut up.

And (finally), isn't trading votes for votes what our system is built on? Isn't that what the "son" chapter involved?

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Originally posted by bilmore What do we gain by bringing in all of those Reagan Dems or moderate R's if we lose Delay's influence? I think you discount his importance too lightly. We'd be better off hiring an aide to follow him with a Taser, zapping his balls whenever he starts talking to reporters.
What has he gotten through? Anything that counts. Tax Reform? Social Security? No - that is the tough stuff. All he has done is gotten legislation through that has exploded the budget. He didn't stop the farm bill and railroaded the Medicare drug thing through. Hell the guy is an economic liberal.
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