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Originally posted by Spanky
I totally understand everyones scepticism of faith. It is faith that guides the suicide bombers. If I say God wrote my book and you say God wrote your book, and we are both using faith to back up our positions, then we will not be able to reslove our differences. There is no convergence of agreement of morality in that situation. But somehow morality seems to be converging and I don't know why. As the dinasour puts it, I don't understand this "long evolution of moral reasoning". If morality is converging, why is it converging? If morality is just a mutation that helps us survive, I don't see morality for all mankind converging over time. Mutations by definition don't converge. Evolution is based on death. The successful mutation survive and reproduce and the unsuccessful mutations die out. The Eagles with the better eyesight survive, where the eagles with poor eyesight die out because the eagles with the better eyesight get all the food. However, all humans seem to be surviving (surviving meaning they live long enough to reproduce) so humans with a certain moral disposition don't seem to wiping out other humans with out it (don't confuse prosperity with death). So it does not seem that a certain moral mutation is becoming dominant by wiping out all other mutations, yet human morality seems to be converging.
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I have read very little, if anything, that rejected faith. Neither have you. What has been offered, repreatedly, are a number of rational bases for moral and ethical decision-making.
People are rejecting your assertion that a faith in the Judeo-Christian model God is the only supportable basis for an ethical or moral code. The whole business about Darwin and natural selection is, it seems to me, a diversion at best, or sophistry at worst. Your resistance to accept the existence of pre-Jewish moral or ethical codes has been similarly diverting, but has failed to either support your point or refute the contrary view.
If it makes you feel better to adhere to a moral standard because you believe God has commanded it, so be it. But why, in the name of all that is holy, would you insist upon arguing to others who find other reasons for supporting a moral life that they should not, unless they do so to follow God? Do you really believe God cares
why people act morally?
