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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I guess that depends on where you think the rights came from. If you think that it's self-evident that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among them Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, you may also think that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. But even if the Governments' powers derive from the consent of the governed, those unalienable Rights are endowed nonetheless by the Creator.
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You're mocking spanky, right?
We've had this debate before, so let's move past that.
I said somewhat undermined for a reason, which is that it's pretty cheeky for the tortured to be complaining about rights they themselves would likely not honor. There are plenty of reasons to honor those rights, inalienable or not, such as being a model of democracy. But that doesn't seem to be the main argument being made (or maybe it is, but it's not the only one).
