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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
3600 a year? You mean nearly a quarter of the deaths have been US soldiers?*
Somehow, I doubt that. (And, again, you ignore the difference in population sizes to make your "point").
*Over 1700 US soldiers dead in Iraq since March 2003 -- compared to Club's estimate of about 8000 total dead since that time.
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You are not looking at the same time periods I am. I am looking at the current state of affairs. I had to post data regarding CA for prior years because that is all that's available. And what's the population of CA? Iraq is roughly 25 million. While not exact, I think CA is in that neighborhood.
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First, that's just confirmed deaths, and doesn't count all the missing and unknowns.
Second, that's just Iraqi civilians killed by insurgents. It doesn't include US soldiers, nor the civilians killed by US soldiers.
Third, for every death there are several severely wounded -- i.e., loss of limbs. One sees nothing like this in US crime statistics -- there are not 3 or 4 people getting maimed for each murder.
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The CA data doesn't contain much of this information either (e.g., missing/unknowns, wounded).
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I'm sorry, but the suggestion that more people are murdered in the US than in Iraq is just plain wrong -- and that is without taking into account the huge difference in population.
To borrow from Shape Shifter -- would you feel safer in Baghdad, or in New Orleans?
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I don't know how you reach this conclusion. I posted data for CA, you argue US as a whole. I believe there were over 16,000 murders in the US in the last year available.
