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Old 06-24-2005, 06:30 PM   #1284
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The gravity of Clinton's lies.

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Why is a felony conviction for perjury not sufficient?
As far as I know he was never convicted of Perjury. He wasn't even disbarred.
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Are the $1m in litigation sanctions not sufficient?
Following this logic anyone who pays a lot for their defense should get off.
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It's a wonderful syllogism, but as happens in logic it ignores several mitigating (albeit perhaps not sufficiently so) real-world factors:

1) A sitting president was made subject to a civil suit, with no delay
I disagree with their decision, but the Supreme Court overwhelmingly said it was OK.
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2) That civil suit had limited factual merit
But that is irrelevant to the perjury. The laws surrounding perjury, as far as I know, don't say that perjury is OK for the defendant if the plaintiff has a weak case.
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3) The discovery sought was of limited relevance
The judge thought it was relevant. Isn't that the only opinion that matters? So if you are appealing a perjury charge can you claim - well I lied under oath but the judge was wrong in thinking that the questions asked were relevant.
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4) The discovery sought concerned matters that would be considered private by most people
Why is that relevant. It is the legal system. There was case precedence that said that in a sexual harassment suit a plaintiff can ask the defendant about their past sexual relations with other employees. Why is it relevant what people think about that precedent?
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5) The perjury was evasive testimony.
I don't see why this is relevant. It is still perjury

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) Had someone other than Clinton given the same testimony in similar circumstances, would the US Attorney likely bring felony perjury charges?
I think if it was conclusively discovered that someone was lying - then yes. Do you remember that woman that testified at the congressional hearings who was working in a federal hospital who lied under oath about an affair with an employee and she was given a jail sentence? At the time of her testimony she was under probation and had location tag around her leg.
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