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Old 07-04-2005, 06:31 PM   #2284
Valentine
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Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html

It would be nice for these images to be shown to all Americans rather than the humdrum bs we currently are spoonfed.

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IRAQ: Let America Be -- http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html

http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html

http://www.bushflash.com/antiwar2.html

http://www.bushflash.com/liberation.html

Look, in the next several months, American politicians and pundits will talk a lot about 'leveling' with the people by speaking the hard truth about Iraq, meaning an admission that the war is sure to rage for years and require an even heavier sacrifice in money and blood. BS from talking heads. Speak Truth to Power? Nope. This 'leveling' will be just the latest spin. What they won't tell you are these two other hard truths:

(1) First, whatever lies ahead in the Iraq War, the outcome is almost certain to be far worse for Iraqis and Americans than it would have been if the U.S.-led invasion had never happened. Despite the uplifting political rhetoric about democracy and peace, the smart money is on a staggering death toll, a grisly civil war, possibly even genocide, with Sunnis killing Shiites and Shiites killing Sunnis.

CIA analysts also have concluded that Iraq is emerging as a far more effective training ground for Islamic terrorists than Afghanistan ever was. Iraq is both more central to the Arab world and provides hands-on experience in bomb-making, kidnapping, assassination and conventional attacks on military targets.

(2) If the Iraq insurgency ever ends, these battle-hardened terrorists also would be freed up to turn their skills on American targets around the world or on pro-U.S. governments in the Middle East, such as Saudi Arabia, Israel and Jordan, according to an internal CIA analysis written in May 2005. Most of these countries are de facto client-states for the US military-industrial complex. More so than ever.

re saving face n Iraq, in Vietnam, by the spring of '68, it was clear to just about everyone--including our intelligence agencies--that the war was lost. I think that Iraq may be in a similar 'quagmire'. The Tet Offensive made it obvious that the combined forces of North Vietnam and the Viet Cong weren't being defeated or decimated. The United States insisted that it would never talk directly or negotiate with the communist North and their allied partisans in South Vietnam, insisting that the quisling regime in Saigon was the lawful government. So the war dragged on for another five years, killing tens of thousands more Americans and hundreds of thousands more Vietnamese.

Finally, during 1972-1973, the United States did what it had previously said it wouldn't do: it essentially abandoned its puppet government in South Vietnam and began direct talks with the Vietnamese communists. The communists were magnanimous enough to give the United States a face-saving way out, rather than forcing Washington to admit that it was surrendering. And we left. That Iraq was clearly a mistake is crystalizing as a given.

That's a given. I don't know if Bush will find a way for the U.S. to save face here. Who knows, at this point, there may be no face to save. If that's the case, Bush should just hurry up and bring our gals and boys back now. 2,000 dead for no reason is treason. The more I think about it, the more I agree that Team Bush should be impeached and tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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