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Old 07-12-2005, 03:35 PM   #3495
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Das anti-Kapitalists!

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Punt.
Why is that a punt? It's a direct response to what you posited, correctly, as the central dividing line in this mess. Slaveowners were able to defend their position only because they also considered this statement to be a punt, I suspect.

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What about your kidney, dad? Why can't the state make you give it to me if I need it?
Are you asking, would this be constitutional? Kelo seems to say, yes. (Okay, just kidding.) I think there is a qualitative difference between, {you have to do this or someone else will die}, and, {if you do this, you will kill someone else}. There's no legal or social mandate that a fetus start growing in some specific womb - but, once it's there, I think that we need to engage in a balancing of constitutionally-protected rights in order to determine if the womb-person has the right to simply kill the invading fetus.

I can refuse to feed you, and watch you die. I can't accomplish the same goal with a shotgun. We recognize that difference, at least.
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