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Old 07-15-2005, 04:15 PM   #4109
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Originally posted by Spanky
Yes in a moraless vacuum. In a moraless vacuum being bigoted or racist wouldn't be a bad thing either. But in a world of right and wrong I stand by my comment. So is it racist to assume that black people in Africa should get human rights? Or is that me imposing my "western values" on Africans. Is it racist or bigoted of me to say that Nazism was bad for Germany. Democracy is not just a system. It is a belief that it is a human right to have a say in how your own government is run. Just like it is a human right to not be tortured. To say that Arabs don't want or need democracy is like saying African Americans don't want or need an education.

Do you belive in Human rights. Then Arabs deserve live in Democratic governments. If you don't, then the Arabs don't want or need democracy and slavery is OK. In which camp are you?
I always enjoy the "You're a [racist/bigot/nazi/pedophile/goatfucker] if you don't agree with me" argument. Its a close second to my favorite - the "You're robbing me of my freedom of religion by forcing me to be tolerant of others' moral choices I don't like and preventing me from putting my religious code into law to stop them from acting in a way I don't like."

Karl would be proud, if he weren't busy setting up his new office on K Street.
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