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Old 07-15-2005, 06:01 PM   #4150
Tyrone Slothrop
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See, I read it and concluded that the author is in favor of spreading democracy, but believes that the U.S. has pursued specific policies that are counterproductive to that end. I feel that way, as does Sullivan.

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Originally posted by Spanky
" Democracy is something a nation has to want, something a nation has to want so much they will shed blood for it. And the Arab world wants democracy as much as they want a hole in the head. They don't get it, they don't care to get it and it seems to be making life particularly shitty for their Iraqi brothers."

After reading the above quote were standing by your above statement?

That statement strikes me as ignorant, absurd and bigoted.

Maybe if you substitute the word Human Rights with democracy you might finally see the obvious.

" Human Rights are something a nation has to want, something a nation has to want so much they will shed blood for it. And the Arab world wants Human Rights as much as they want a hole in the head. They don't get it, they don't care to get it and it seems to be making life particularly shitty for their Iraqi brothers."
Maybe we're talking past each other, but I don't understand how it's necessarily ignorant, absurd or bigoted to observe that people in Yemen seem to care about other things -- e.g., Arab nationalism, or their religious beliefs -- more than democracy. Is it bigoted to point out that the revolution in Iran did more to advance Islam than democracy? Of course not. Do you think that was just bad luck? Because the hard-line candidate favored by the mullahs just won the last election.
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