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Old 08-02-2005, 02:00 AM   #502
Tyrone Slothrop
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Liberals - go figure

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Originally posted by Spanky
The guy took power through the barrel of a gun and has held power throught the barrel of a gun for forty years. During that time he has crushed all dissent. He may have some support, but so did Pol Pot. Still does. Since when did some support create legitimacy.
Legitimacy is akin to support. It's a positive concept, not a normative one, at least in the (Weberian) sense I'm using it. Pol Pot had some measure of legitimacy, too, notwithstanding that he was a nutcase, etc.

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To equate his political prisoners with the detainees at guantanomo is beyond ridiculous. Bush and the military did not place those guys there because they supported Kerry in the last election. If Kerry and his supporters were at Guantanamo then it would make more sense.
OK. Did someone say otherwise?

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Why do liberals love Castro so much? I just don't get it. He locks up and tortures political opponents and he has destroyed his country.
I don't know. The liberals I know don't care for him. Not sure whom you've been talking to.

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Yet I call him illegitimate and that is called absurd?
Who said it was absurd?

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I call him a despot and that is called absurd?
Did I say that? I missed it.

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He runs the most opressive regime in Latin America. Yet that is considered ridiculous. Can someone name a regime in Latin America right now that is more oppressive than Cuba?
I'm really not qualified to answer that question. Fujimori was no ball of fun, but he's gone now. I hear Venezuela is not a groovy place to be. Brazil is oppressive if you're poor.

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I guess, in the liberal mind, if you critisize capitalism, no matter what you do, it can't be all that bad.
Again, not sure what you're talking about.
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