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Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, I was just trying to get you to move the dialogue forward, instead of throwing out quotes and photoshops of Hillary like a chimp throwing feces.
If you want to discuss the current PLO leadership, then why not acknowledge that the current leadership has made anumber of arrests and also begun to take steps to deter the suicide bombings? They aren't completely successful, but an effort is being made.
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It is a pattern of behavior that has occured multiple times before. Further, instead of just dismissing Arafat's words with your chimpishly thrown feces posts, read what he says. The past mission, nowhere repudiated with any sincereity was, do whatever it takes to sucker the West and Israel into giving us a foothold and then kill them all. Oh wait, he's dead, and forty years of policy and history magically terminated.
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As for Clinton, I hate to break it to you, but you guys won. Get over it.
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I hate to break it to you, they are still around and influential in politics. Jamie Gorelick/the 911 Commission report/Able Danger are relevant and direct results of the Clinton presidency. Further, one of the co-presidents is the leading candidate for the 2008 Dem nomination. Oh, wait, Clinton is not office and all effect of his presidency disappeared. And Hillary is a right wing Dem now.
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With respect to Bush, I long ago agreed that it was largely irrelevant at this point whether or not there were ever any WMD. Take off your ideologue blinders, pay attention to what someone actually says, and respond to that, why don't you? The big issue in Iraq at this point, I would say the ONLY issue, is, since we're there, when is the Administration going to acknowledge (i) the fact that a larger, more expensive effort is needed and (ii) it's not going to be possible to cut taxes at the same time as this massive effort is being paid for. Not to mention, they still have to permanently kill the death tax, npi.
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I think there are day to day policy statements and actions reflect what is going on. Any plan undergoes changes and corrections as it unfolds. They have stated the goal, from the start and I dont see them wavering. We had a referendum on it in November, the people approved the course of action. Other than giving it time to blossom, what more needs to be said? As for tax cuts, there is plenty of fat in the budget that can be taken out.
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Now, do you want to respond to my points, or are you going to fall back on cheap shots and inflammatory quotes from dead people again?
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Yes.