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You are not really responding to what I said. I referred to things "like" agricultural subsidies.
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The point is that it is a small part of the GDP of these states
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What are we blowing out of proportion? All we said is that politicians from these states make a lot of noise about big government, but that these states are subsidized by those of us in the blue states. This is true.
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Yes it is true (although I have not seen the numbers I am just trusting you guys on this) just because they recieve slighlty more in federal revenue does not mean they are more dependant on government. You are saying it does.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Since the average Californian or New Yorker is much more economically productive than the average Arizonan or Montanan,
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Cite. Really?
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop it should not surprise you that, having more money, they decide to tax themselves more so that their government can do more things.,
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Do you understand what the word proportional means? They spend a higher percentage of their GDP not just more money. And our governments don't do more things they just spend more money. We spend more money on education yet have larger class sizes. Go figure.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Matter to what? The truth remains that the small-government-talking red-state conservatives are happy to use the federal government as an instrument to siphon wealth from our states to theirs. And since this crowd has been running the federal government in recent years, they have spent money like drunken sailors, run massive budget deficits, and generally screwed up the country's fiscal house, all the while spouting this pablum about small government. .,
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The fact remains that these small states have smaller state governments. They have all this century.
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Senator Thune and most of the residents of western South Dakota disagree you with you, but so what? Even if you're right, it's not stopping conservative politicians from spending federal money for their constituents..,
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No they don't. They might like getting Federal dollars, who wouldn't, they spend less per person on government in South Dakota because they have a much small (proportionally smaller) state government than the big states.
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So? Is this supposed to be responsive to something I said?
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Yes - it completely refutes your position that the Red States are being hypocritical when they talk about small government. Small states spend a smaller proportion of their GDP on government because their state governments are proportionally smaller. The extra federal revenue does significantly changes this proportion. They pay less money in taxes and less money is spent on government proportionally (even with the extra federal money) than the large states.
The small red states believe in smaller government and they practice what they preach. The tax themselves less and the proportional revenue from all government programs they receive is less than people in big states. That is the reality despite all the hot air you guys have been spewing.
