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Old 09-01-2005, 12:24 AM   #3155
Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally posted by Spanky
My point was that they mistrust government, and therefore have smaller state governments. You were questioning the validity of that statement.
And still do, since the people whom you say "mistrust" government have expanded it, and are using it to redistribute money from their neighbors in other states.

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I don't know about this. It all depends on your definition of proudctivity. But what the department of labor considers productivity I think you are wrong.
Economic output per person. I think you will find that output is significantly greater for urban and coastal areas. Not surprisingly, this is where economic activity is most diverse.

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Now you are just acting like a five year old. On the flip side, North Korea has a large robust active central government that takes a strong interest in the means of production. So does Cuba and Burma - maybe you should move to one of those.
See, the difference is that I'm not the one pretending that our economy is the measure of our greatness. You are.

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Yes they are frugal with their money (you call it cheap). You say that like it is a bad thing and that is what makes you liberal. Most people want a state government that is cheap. I wish I could make the same claim about my state government.
Most Californians disagree with you, which is why the legislature is full of people you don't like, and why Arnold is growing less popular as people understand what he stands for.

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Again my state just doesn't spend more money, its spends a larger percentage of what I make. So the fact that we make more money is not enough, they have to spend even more money. And I just don't think the services provided by the state of California are all that much better than these rural states. Despite the lavish amount of money spent on them. And again, they just don't spend more money. They find it necessary, even though I make more money than my counterpart in small states, to take an even larger percentage of my pay check, and yet they don't provide better services.
They are doing what the voters of the state want, and this should be no surprise, since Californians are like the voters of other affluent coastal states in this way.

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NO - again - we were not talking about the federal government. We were talking about all government. And the fact that they may receive more money from the Federal Government, does not change the fact, that they distrust large government and it is reflected in the size of their state governments. You keep saying I am not on point when you are the one that is not on point.
You keep saying that they distrust big government, and ignoring that the clowns they elect are spending federal dollars like it's going out of style. They do not practice what they preach when they go to Washington. And perhaps the only reason they don't do this at home is that their state economies are not rich enough to let them blow money on a similar scale.
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