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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
And still do, since the people whom you say "mistrust" government have expanded it, and are using it to redistribute money from their neighbors in other states.
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To make the blanket statement that the recent upsurge in Federal spending has been 1)Soleley at the direction of people from small states 2) has been for the purpose of expanding government and getting money to the rural states is absurd. Over long periods of time rural states have created smaller bureacracies. To say that this is all nullified by the fact that in the past four years a party which has a large representation from rural states has increased federal spending nullifies this trend that has occurred over the past one hundred years is just ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Economic output per person. I think you will find that output is significantly greater for urban and coastal areas. Not surprisingly, this is where economic activity is most diverse.
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I am not buying it and in any case does not reflect at all on the statement I was making.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop See, the difference is that I'm not the one pretending that our economy is the measure of our greatness. You are.
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You make the statement , that if I am so into "limited government" I should move to Somalia. Considering that Somalia has no government, and I have never advocated anarchy or anything close to it, makes your statement, not only absurd, but petty. And now some how the fact that I believe our economic success is related to our greatness some how justifies your statement I should move to Somalia. Are you smoking crack?
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Most Californians disagree with you, which is why the legislature is full of people you don't like, and why Arnold is growing less popular as people understand what he stands for.
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You know this is wrong. I have seen consistent polls that show most Californians think the state government needs to be reduced. That was the theme of Arnolds campaign and he won by huge margines. He is dropping in the popularity polls because of a massive, and highly dishonest advertising campaign, that Arnold is trying to screw teachers and firefighters.
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You keep saying that they distrust big government, and ignoring that the clowns they elect are spending federal dollars like it's going out of style. They do not practice what they preach when they go to Washington. And perhaps the only reason they don't do this at home is that their state economies are not rich enough to let them blow money on a similar scale.
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You can't really believe what you are saying. This is just absurd. 1) you are talking about a recent development 2) It is also possible that these "clowns" are not doing exactly what they wanbt 3) Over the past one hundred years this trend has occurred.
Do you really not understand statistics. As I have said over and over again, they spend a smaller proportion of their money on the government. Following that trend, even if they had the money we have, they would not spend it. So your statement that, if they would spend the money if they had it is just absurd. And again, I use Nevada and Alaska as an example. They are gettting the revenue but they choose not to spend it. Maybe you missed this part I added later.
California is lucky enough to have the most productive are in the world. The Silicon Valley. And with it they get a huge amount of tax dollars. So does that mean I pay less taxes in California, because California has this huge source of revenue. No - I pay more.
Nevada gets a lot of revenue from Gambling. As a result they don't have a state income tax, and no sales tax. Their property taxes are significantly lower. Yet they have better schools, higher paid law enforcement etc.
Alasksa, with all its extra revenue from Oil taxes, actually give each of its residents a rebate every year. But California, with the biggest tax generator in the world, the Silicon Valley, charges me more state income taxes, higher sales taxes, and higher property taxes than most other states. I don't think you should be using California as an example of a well run state government.
