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Old 09-02-2005, 04:46 PM   #3838
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
It isn't schtick. I personally find it terrible that people do so little to help kids have a chance at a better life. Doing something more than writing a check.
This is an excellent point. Money is valuable, but there are major programs in every city and state where you can get involved in volunteering your time with programs to work with the poor, elderly, undereducated, infirm, etc. Unless one is giving shitloads of money, that kind of time spent with people is far more valuable to them than a check that you might write.

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
That is, if you aren't putting time into kids in need you really shouldn't criticize other (including society in general), and I just think those that are quick to criticize aren't helping, because if they were helping they would realize how few people help and how futile criticism is. Sore topic, and I'm off my soapbox- oh, and I think you went down the road before anyone posted about saving dogs.
A fair point. If I were not doing the kinds of things that you talk about, it would be incredibly hypocritical for me to criticize anyone. That aside, look back at what I wrote. I criticized someone for saying, essentially "One small way that you can help is by helping animals." That offends me personally, and I spoke up. I've already talked about why that offends me. Before that, I only said, essentially "Look, we need to address issues like this in our society. We have a significant underclass which is this close to suffering and mob action and third-world conditions, because they are poor, live in poor conditions already and don't have the ability to evacuate when they obviously should." If we have a situation where the sick elderly are left to die when there is a natural disaster, I think that is a societal and a governmental problem.

I did criticize bnb for suggesting aid be directed towards animals. I stand by that; it's a judgment call, and it's abrasive to criticize someone's charitable efforts or suggestions (even if I don't agree with them, she is advocating legitimate charity), but I just felt like I needed to say something.
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