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Originally posted by Spanky
That is complete "Horseshit". When you same something is wrong, you are assuming that we both agree what is right or wrong.
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No. I am not. I am not necessarily assuming anything about your belief system (or the belief system of whatever miscreant I may be addressing) when I say that something is "wrong." I am making a statement based on my own belief system.
For example, let's assume that I am discussing issues of politics and morality with Mr. Al Zarqawi. I might well tell him that certain things are "wrong" or "immoral", but he and I will likely disagree even on such basic points as who is an "innocent."
That will trouble me not.
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Originally posted by Spanky
If you tell me something is "wrong" or "immoral" the implication is there are set rules to what are right and wrong and that we both are using the same rules. Otherwise what is wrong to you may be right to me. When you are telling me something is immoral or wrong you are assuming there is a moral code that we both have in common.
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No, I am not. See above. What is wrong to me may well be right to you, but in that case you are still wrong.
Spanky, you're stuck on a basic, natural law approach to moral reasoning. (There have been some developments in the past 250 years.) That is fine if it works for you, but is ultimately circular -- as The Captain has been pointing out.
"Because God says so" doesn't ultimately solve much of anything.
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Originally posted by Spanky
That is not complicated, and once you think about, it is obvious.
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Res ipsa loquitur.
S_A_M