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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Velma, your argument is easily dismantled.
First, what is the "legitimate gripe" to which you refer? What "legitimate gripe" can anyone have with another person's decision about what to do with his or her body? How does another woman having plastic work create a "legitimate gripe" for anyone else?
Second, if such a gripe could exist, what exactly is it? Flesh it out for me because I can't fathom what on possible gripe one could have with another's personal decision regarding his or her body (and don't hand me some political pretext about plastic work degrading women as a whole - gimme a real honest gripe, if one exists).
Third, my attitude is not gender related. Men who make fun of other men who have attributes they don't usually do so from a position of insecurity. I've done it myself. We all do. We're humans and we have insecurities about certain things.
I'm not being sexist at all. I just exposed a simple truth that for some reason people don't want to admit, and I'm not surprised you've reacted the way you did. People just don't like to admit their insecurities. But they should get over it.
S(yes, GWNC - this is an obvious fact, but one that for some reason people avoid like SARS)D
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Yawn. Must we go over Body Image 101 here? We all have insecurities. I'm certainly not perfect, though I'm pretty happy with how I am. But it is disturbing that otherwise healthy people will accept the major health risks of anaesthesia and the strong likelihood of complications or future surgery on otherwise healthy organs in order to look a certain way. I'm not talking post-mastectomy reconstruction--I'm talking about "my B boobs are wholly inadequate." Men are catching up and becoming similarly obsessed, but it's still mostly women statistically. To say it's purely individual and not at least related to women still being valued more as t&a than whole human beings in the society as a whole is fucking ignorant. Saying so isn't a sign of "jealousy" as you put it--it's a legitimate critique of a social phenomenon. And for you to diminish it as such is a one of the oldest patronizing and sexist insults out there.
Fuck. It's like listening to Mike Brady complain that some of those "women's libbers" are really "out there."
And while we're at it--I'm sure Michael Jackson's obsessive skin-bleaching has nothing to do with the absurd perception that white people generally have life a little easier.