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Originally posted by baltassoc
Why are these (or some of these) liberal verses conservative?

Also, you dare show your face around here the day after getting your ass handed to you by Tom Delay?

Are you a conservative:
1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be based only upon scores on admission tests, without regard to any other factors.

MOST CONSERVATIVES WOULD AGREE WITH THIS AS LONG AS THE TESTS TEST ABILITY FOR THE JOB.
2. All people should be assimilated into a single American culture.

MANY CONSERVATIVES BELIEVE THIS .
3. School districts should direct teachers or principles [sic] with an iron fist, allowing no discretion in the academic program

I DON'T THINK THAT IS FAIR AND MOST CONSERVATIVE BELIEVE IN LOCAL CONTROL.
4. Students should be tested repeatedly, and all teaching should be oriented at passing the tests rather than actual life skills

MOST CONSERVATIVES BELIEVE STUDENTS SHOULD BE TESTED REPEATEDLY. BUT THEY BELIEVE THE TEST SHOULD BE GEARED SO THAT PREPARING FOR THE TEST FORCES THE STUDENT TO LEARN THE SUBJECT. I THINK, AND MOST CONSERVATIVES AGREE THAT READING AND WRITING AND MATH ARE ACTUAL LIFE SKILLS.

5. Only standardized tests should be used to determine the value of a person; individuals who work with students every day should have absolutely no say in whether they should be moved up.

NO CONSERVATIVE AGREES WITH THE FIRST LINE. I THINK THE SECOND LINE IS MOSTLY FAIR. TESTS SHOULD DETERMINE IF A STUDENT SHOULD MOVE UP.
6. People who are poor deserve to be poor because they are lazy or stupid, or both.

SOME ARCH CONSERVATIVES ME BELIEVE THIS. HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY BELIEVE THIS.
7. Torture and coercion are acceptable techniques to lead to criminal convictions, even if they lead to false convictions; the important thing is that someone go to jail.

I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO AGREES WITH THIS.
8. Tyranny is okay as long as business interests not interfered with (or no one threatens your Daddy).

I DON'T KNOW ANYONE AGREES WITH THIS.
9. Murderers should always be put to death.

DEPENDS ON YOUR DEFINITION OF MURDER. BUT I KNOW SOME CONSERVATIVES WHO AGREE WITH THIS.
10. During the Cold War, it was a good thing that the Soviet Union built thousands of ICBMs and then left them in the hands of breakaway republics such that the world has no idea where a significant amount of weapons grade nuclear material is.

NO ONE I KNOW AGREES WITH THIS. IF YOU ARE SAYING THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO NUCLEAR FREEZE YOU ARE FLAT WRONG.
11. Colleges (even those founded by religions) should be forced to allow ROTC programs.

ONLY IF THEY GET PUBLIC FUNDS. BUT IF YOU ADD COLLEGES RECEIVEING PUBLIC FUNDS MOST CONSERVATIVE AGREE.
12. It was right to leave Saddam Hussein in place after the Gulf War.
THAT IS FAIR. I AGREE WITH THIS ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE CONSERVATIVE POSITION.
13. Providing a stable government is less important than removing a dictator.

THAT IS FAIR.
14. Poor children whose parents can't afford private schools even with vouchers should be happy to go to schools whose resources have been slashed to provide for vouchers for middle class kids.

THAT IS NOT FAIR. TOO MANY ASSUMPTIONS.
15. It is good that big energy and corporate America are the two biggest contributors to the Republican Party.

THAT IS FAIR.
16. The present tax rates, while lower than almost any first world nation, should be slashed further, even at the cost of providing basic emergency services.

THAT IS FAIR UNTIL YOU GET TO BASIC EMERGENCY SERVICES. THAT TERM NEEDS TO BE DEFINED. WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE POSITION DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR DEFINITION OF EMERGENCY SERVICES IS.
17. Ethics codes on college campuses are good and promote American values.

THAT IS FAIR.
18. War is a better way of solving disputes between countries than agreed upon arbitration.

NOT FAIR.
19. Other countries should never have differing opinions about whether the United States is doing the right thing, and if they do, we should invade them.

TOTALLY RIDICULOUS. NO CONSERVATIVE I KNOW TAKES THIS POSITION.
20. It is bad that colleges have created hundreds of women's sports teams.

SOME CONSERVATIVES MIGHT AGREE WITH THIS BUT NOT MOST.
21. Racial profiling for terrorists is the only mechanism that should be used to find terrorists. Behaviorial clues are irrelevant to determining actual treats compared to the color of one's skin or last name.

THAT IS RIDICULOUS. NO CONSERVATIVE THINKS THAT RACIAL PROFILING IS THE ONLY WAY TO FIND TERRORITSTS. BUT MOST CONSERVATIVES THINK THAT RACIAL PROFILING SHOULD BE ONE OF THE TOOLS.
22. Being morally corrupt and ignorant and stupid -- not a complex interaction of a multitude of social forces -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.

I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO BELIEVE THIS

23. WASP culture is morally superior to any other.

ALTHOUGH THEY WOULDN'T ADMIT IT, I KNOW MANY CONSERVATIVES WHO BELIEVE THIS. I THINK IT WOULD INCLUDE MORE CONSERVATIVES IF YOU MADE IT "AMERICAN CULTURE" BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONSERVATIVE CATHOLICS.