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Originally posted by sgtclub
For me, it's first and foremost a security issue, but the immigation issue is very important as well. America was built on immigrants and needs to continue to be able to attract immigrants to this country for all sorts of purposes, especially as our population base begins to age. However, immigrants need to be assimilated, taxes collected, government assistance and benefits tracked, etc., and that cannot be done without some sort of system in place.
eta: and fuck you for what you are insinuating above.
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Fuck you back. How does whatever bill you are talking about strengthen border security? Because it seems like the bill that people are strongly protesting is one that makes employing or giving any aid to immigrants a FELONY. The bill that people high up in the Roman Catholic church have said they will instruct their people to ignore, if it becomes law. I don't see how that is strengthening the security of our borders. And that is the bill that RT was talking about -- the bill that has sparked huge protests.
If you are talking about a different bill, please provide details on it, and how it makes our nation more secure. Is it that you support Brian Billbray (or whatever his name is) and you are all defensive on this?
ETA saying "make sure that the ones who get in are ones we want" really does not make you sound good. I'm not saying (and I don't really think) that you (consciously) think what many people would think you were saying, but it sounds like you are a racist fuck. Or classist. Really, probably both, but with an assumption that people of some races are not the class we would want, until they prove that they actually come from quite an aristocratic family and went to Harvard.
EATA this started because Spanky was in favor of the Bilbray guy. Someone said, I'm surprised you like him, his take on immigration seems different from yours. RT talked about the walkouts, which are in reaction to a particular bill that is very punitive. You responded, oh, you aren't into border security?
To me, the punitive House bill and this type of stuff
http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer...pdf?docID=681, which is what the organization Bilbray is co-chair of (which seems to be something he thinks is a big point for him) are not really about Homeland Security. They are about different issues. And calling it a "security" issue is disingenuous and really the only reason I can see for doing it is that then you can say that people who oppose you want America to be weaker and, really, can't be distinguished from terrorists.
