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Originally posted by ltl/fb
That in areas where there aren't any (or are very very few) low-skill immigrants, the jobs that low-skilled workers have (e.g., bus boy, valet parker, day laborer, gardener, cleaning staff) just don't exist, or exist as a very much smaller job category relative to other jobs. E.g., Dallas and LA both have more valet parking than I've ever seen anywhere. Seems plausible to me that it's prevalent because it's affordable because of the influx of workers, and it seems like more people have someone else do the gardening and cleaning.
Oooh, and handwashing cars. NEVER really saw that anywhere other than here. Or, not for cheap. So I think more people here get their cars washed than just use the drive through or wash them themselves.
ETA see, you are assuming they compete for the same jobs. So you would want facts showing that they don't compete for the same jobs.
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Around here you can get your car handwashed any Saturday morning when the weather is good - as a fundraiser for an athletic team or extracurricular activity at the local high school.
So obviously, the immigrants are robbing the children of California and Texas of a good education.
All the discussion on economics is interesting, but, frankly, who gives a damn? The reason to permit broad immigration is that it's the right thing to do. The US should be a home for people who have hopes and dreams, whether those hopes and dreams are to escape poverty or to escape tyranny.
So, open the borders wide, and let those who are here stay absent a good reason (crime, for example) for deporting them.
Fact is, the President hasn't been as bad on these issues as many Rs would be - he is at least looking to legalize many who are here - and no politician in their right mind is going to be as idealistic on the issues as I'd like. But I really see little reason for the wholesale closing of borders that began with the Chinese Exclusion Act in the 1880s.
