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Old 07-04-2006, 10:16 AM   #1613
Tyrone Slothrop
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Who lied?

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Originally posted by Spanky
Are you implying that only Republicans play politics?
No.

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I don't have to check them. I remember them well. You argued for a while that FDR didn't lie, even when faced with overwhelming evidence (and critisizing those of us who claimed he did) and then finally you gave in. Do I really have to look them up?
No -- you remember them poorly. I said that I could believe that FDR lied, but that I hadn't seen the evidence. Which was far from overwhelming. If that's overwhelming, then you are -- to say the very least -- applying a different standard to our current president. I can believe that FDR -- or any president -- lied.

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OK I realize that you are litle slow and you don't know much about Constitutional law so I will spell it out of you. Yes the constitution does not say anything about lying or lying under oath. But it does discuss what should happen when the President commits "high crimes and misdemeanors". In case you weren't aware, lying is not a crime but lying under oath is - and in some cases is a felony. Some people think that felonies fall under "high crimes" and "misdemeanors".
And you have a problem with reading comprehension. I said the Constitution doesn't say anything about lying under oath. Which is true.

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And only in a non-reality based universe some liberals inhabit did the CIA reach a definite incronterversial conclusion about what happened to the WMDs.
At this point, you really should not keep posting about what happened to the WMD. Instead, I would get out of the hole.

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Do you mean the trade sanction everyone admitted didn't work, or the bombings that were in retaliation for Iraqis shooting at US planes in the no fly zone? You believe these actions pushed Saddam into destroying his WMDs.
No: The trade sanctions limited -- if not eliminated -- Iraq's ability to obtain what it needed to make WMD. And my recollection -- here, I will admit that I've spent 30-45 seconds Googling this in the last day and can't find what I'm thinking of -- is that we destroyed some WMD-related facilities with Clinton-era bombings.
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