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Old 07-14-2006, 12:52 PM   #1821
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Lebanon a fait "Boom?"

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
And taking a different route decreased hostilities... except for the persistent rocket fire and kidnappings, of course.
I'm sorry. It was hard to tell from the context of your sentence whether you were talking about Hamas's or Israel's constant kidnappings and rocket fire.


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Yep. And Israel has repeatedly demonstrated its willingness to have two states -- provided that neither one is dropping bombs on the other. It is Palestinian factions, and supporting Arab states and Iran, that insist that Israel be driven off the map. As they have done for at least 40 years now. ...


...Israel has repeatedly demonstrated, over the decades, a willingness to allow a Palestinian state. But far too many Palestinian, Arab, and Irani leaders insist that Israel cease to exist.
Not true. It is only very recently and very grudgingly that Israel has indicated a willingness to have two states. Except that Israel gets to control the borders exclusively and Israael gets to cross the border into Palestinian territory to conduct raids. Oh, and Israel gets to shoot rockets into crowded slums because they think there might be one guy there who is wanted in Israel.

You know, it really isn't impossible to support Israel and still acknowledge that they are a ruthlessly violent nation willing to pound the shit out of anyone who threatens their existence. In fact, given what they're up against in the Middle East, one can even admire them for it.

But treating Israel as the weak puppy in the fight is a bit absurd, don'cha think?
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