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Old 08-08-2006, 11:05 PM   #2803
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think you're saying that you're OK with the President lying to scare people into a war with Iraq if we're in a different war on global terror. But that seems stupid to me, so I thought I'd give you a chance to try to make it sound better.

Interestingly, it turns out that we were in the global war on terror during the Clinton Administration as well, but Republicans like yourself didn't want to believe it, so you chose not to support the Commander-in-Chief during wartime. For example, you guys refuse to believe that Clinton had legitimate reasons to launch those cruise missiles at Sudan and Afghanistan. Which is to say, you mean that you support a Republican Commander in Chief during wartime.
In follow up to the below, in fairness, in my estimation, the war we are currently in, started with the taking of our Iranian Embassy. Carter dropped the ball by prostrating our policy to the lives of a couple of hundred diplomats. It was an act of war and it should have been treated as such. Reagan dropped the ball consistently to trhougout his term on the ME (except for supporting Israel). The day the hostages came out was the day we should have launched retaliatory strikes and taken out some military targets. We were weak on Hezbollah after the embassy bombing in Beirut, and Reagan cut and ran. Etc etc etc et al. It is all part of a whole, as the terror network and the funding network interact (albeit necessarily in a concerted way) in various ways. Unfortunately, none of our Presidents over the last 30 years has had an overarching policy or vision on the ME and how to balance dealing with the radical islamist terrorist problem while also trying to respect the cultural differences and win the hearts and minds of the people. So we find ourselves in the situation we are. For now, I advocate more aggressive military policy. It's not perfect, but I think diplomacy in this area is for shit, so the alternative method is worth a shot.

Either way, point is, plenty of blame to go around to all of the last 5 presidents. At least.
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