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Originally posted by Penske_Account
dissent. The analogy is off. the fact is, all empty space is not filled with ether and if someone who knows that quotes aristotle then that is close enough to a lie to be equivalent.
With Bush, they thought it might be true. They had some intelligence that indicated it was and then some subsequent intelligence that conflicted with the earlier intelligence. The brits only had one type of intelligence and were a key ally. I think citing their intelligence, when you still believed it might be true (and as far as I am aware it was never absolutely proven that it was not true) is fine.
It was a judgement call. No dishonesty.
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The CIA told them they couldn't say it because it wasn't supported by the evidence. Full stop. It was taken out of an earlier address for this reason. But then the White House tried to use it again for the State of the Union. And the CIA again said "no." So they added the language about Britain. Plainly, an attempt to skirt the fact that the intelligence was otherwise.
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Again, if it turned out Saddam got the yellow cake and made a bomb and dropped it on SF, Ty would have been howling louder than the most that Bush;s inteligence dropped the ball. And questioning why the brits got it right.
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