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Old 08-10-2006, 11:08 PM   #3287
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
He's not the first terrorist legitimized by the West and he won't be the last. Think of the contras in Nicaragua or Jonas Savimbi, to take just two examples.
I am not sure those guys are terrorists, as much as military leaders in civil war.


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Think of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein in the 1980s. .
He was the leader of the country. Not a terrorist artificially legitimsed to a leader..

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It's like you're waste-deep in manure and worrying about some shit on your hands. I'm not saying it's not shit -- I'm saying, try to keep your perspective, man.
I think the problem is people refuse to open their eyes to a realistic perspective. This guy was a terrorist. A murderer and a thug. And the anti-semites in Europe and the UN turned him and the terrorism he espoused into legtimate political actors in probably the hotest hot spot in the world over the last 30 years.

Because of this, we and Israel are left in a position we the choices are either war or negotiate with terrorists, for a peace that will be illusory at best, i.e. will last until they decide to drive the jews into the sea.

The contras or Jonas Savimbi don't come close to rising to the level of affect that Arafat's successors do.

And the liberals of the West, even in 20/20 hindsight, live in the bliss of denial regarding Arafat.

why not say, unqualifiedly, the guiy was a terrorist baby killer and he never should have been dealt with (any more than hitler should have). But you can't. You have to try to water it down somehow with the contras and Savimbi (translation: Reagan's terrorists).

Why the hate for true peace makers and statesmen?
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