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Old 08-16-2006, 05:21 PM   #4019
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
That's why the articles are peer reviewed and that's why they're constantly rehashing the same thing over and over and over again. That's why the EPA, the National Academy of Sciences, and most recently, the Surgeon General issued separate studies on the subject. It's not a hypothesis that one group of physicians came up with and was never tested again.

I'd be more than happy to play "who has more doctors in the family that we can bullshit with at cocktail parties" with you, and I'm pretty sure that I'd win. But I've also gone to a School Public Health and actually done healthcare research, and a vast majority of what I do every day involves healthcare research, and your disdain for epidemeology and evidence based, outcomes oriented medicine show an obvious bias against any rigorous study which has results that you do not agree with.

I could give a shit about what you do with your kids. My doctor father used to get ready every weekend for 100 mile road trips by making a 16 ounce gin and tonic for the road. The single car seat was reserved for the infant, and the other three kids at various weights under fifty pounds were strapped in to whatever lap belts were around. We all lived. Doesn't mean it was safe then or now.
You can tout studies till you're blue in the face. If what those "studies" say about second hand smoke were accurate (in the sense that they conveyed to the average person his actual chance of getting cancer from a nearby cigar now and again), we'd all have cancer.

According to "govt studies," most of us should be dead. Second hand smoke is not a huge risk, and taht is exactly why, no matter how many studies you might offer me, or how much Sidd will "2" you on the issue, it will always sound absurd for people to say "second hand smoke causes cancer."

It sounds absurd.

Does it happen? Sure, to a degree remarkably infrequent.

Ask an onc how many patients he/she has seen over the years who got lung cancer ascribable to ssecond hand smoke (not industrial second hand smoke).
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