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Old 08-17-2006, 11:23 AM   #4202
Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It was on this douchebag's watch that the current President of Iran - so enamoured by Mike Warrace and the Kossacks - led the "students" that raided the US Embassy and took all those Americans hostages:

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Der SPIEGEL: You also mentioned the hatred for the United States throughout the Arab world which has ensued as a result of the invasion of Iraq. Given this circumstance, does it come as any surprise that Washington's call for democracy in the Middle East has been discredited?

Former "President" Carter: No, as a matter of fact, the concerns I exposed have gotten even worse now with the United States supporting and encouraging Israel in its unjustified attack on Lebanon.

SPIEGEL: But wasn't Israel the first to get attacked?

Carter: I don't think that Israel has any legal or moral justification for their massive bombing of the entire nation of Lebanon. What happened is that Israel is holding almost 10,000 prisoners, so when the militants in Lebanon or in Gaza take one or two soldiers, Israel looks upon this as a justification for an attack on the civilian population of Lebanon and Gaza. I do not think that's justified, no.
Say what you will about the retired GRF, GHWB or WHC, but none of these former POTUS' are an embarrassment to this country.

Carter is an embarrassing and deplorable piece of fucking shit.
The embarrassment here is calling an ex-president a "douchebag" and a "piece of shit" because you disagree with him. What have conservatives done do traditional civility?

Seymour Hersh reported in this week's New Yorker that Israel had planned the aerial campaign against Hezbollah earlier this year and cleared it with the U.S. (no surprise -- they went to Cheney first) in advance. Did you think they were just improvising after those soldiers got kidnapped? Please. Do you think that it's out to lunch to say that we encouraged Israel?

Carter is far from the only person who thinks that Israel's response was disproportionate and unwise. Now that the dust is settling, we can see that the effects of Israel's campaign were to trash a good amount of Lebanon, strengthen Hezbollah politically in a huge way, and enlarge the UN peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon. Two months ago, are any of those results that Israel would want at all, let alone at the costs it incurred?

Friends point out when friends screw up. Israel screwed up.
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