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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
For the record, I could care less whether ppnyc is hot or not. That was never the point of any of my interactions with her. I don't care what clothes she wears, I don't care whether she is an attorney or "staff". What I care about are the really ugly views she continually espouses about other women. I don't consider myself to be a huge feminist, but her treatment of other women on this board and views about what should make women happy are offensive to me. I am offended, as a woman, by statements that only women who are married with kids could possibly be happy and everyone else is an unhappy, bitter, lonely fraud. I am offended when her counter to a woman who disagrees with her is that the woman must be ugly and not in a relationship. I wish there weren't women in the world who held the views that she claims to hold. I think that her views do a great disservice to women generally, and particularly to women who have taken the time and effort to make careers and lives for themselves that don't revolve solely around whether they have men in their life.

So, Penske, don't give me this "what an unfair pile-on to poor, innocent little ppnyc". The stuff she spews here is vile and hateful towards other women and it is perfectly reasonable for some of us to point out to her that we take offense to her entire line of thinking. No that she gives us any indication that she gets what we are saying most of the time, but at least we can try to impart the message.

In other words, I'm perfectly happy for her to be non-substantive. Not my beef at all.

Just to clarify, she said that having kids and a husband made her more balanced. She didn't say happy. But of course we all know that what makes you more balanced and happy is having gone to grad school. Or college.