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Old 08-28-2006, 02:32 PM   #4691
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Victimhood (Prius Rant)

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Your response is BS for two reasons, putting aside that it's based on a single person's annecdote.

First--you have to compare the number who walked away with the number who died in rollovers that wouldn't have occured in a car.

Second--my point was that the SUV owners are creating less safe roads for others, not for themselves. But it's self-defeating. If SUVs are in fact safer, then everyone will eventually get them. And instead of having 3000lb cars hitting eachother, we'll have 5000lb SUVs hitting each other. Which is more likely to cause fatalities. Prisoners dilemma, etc. While the individual owner may be better off, society is worse off .

BTW--who likes minivans? But, yes, they have some of the same problems. But they're not as wide, and usually not as high. I don't like driving behind trucks either. But SUVs, unlike trucks, are not everyhwere.
I didn't base my conclusion that people in SUVs do better in accidents than people in cars on one anecdote. I cited that as one example. My point is actually proven in part by your argument, which admits that, in an accident, an SUV owner has greater mass. Greater mass often = better chance of surviving.

Are you suggesting the lives saved as a result of people being in SUVs aren't a valid offset against those you claim are taken by SUVs? That's an interesting methodology. I'd like you to do my taxes. It also assumes, quite arrogantly, that SUVs cannot benefit people more than the shrill anti-SUVers claim they damage them. You don't know and can't prove that SUVs cause more deaths than they prevent. That position, which you cite as though it were fact, is a popular belief touted by anti-SUV people, whose supporting information (if any) most assuredly does not offset the deaths caused by the deaths prevented. You're offering a piece of politically correct rhetoric as fact.

Show me a study confirming deaths caused outweigh deaths prevented.

I see no prisoner's dilemna except the one a certain group of people want to find.
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