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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
we're 5 years into this. if torture hadn't gotten us any information so far, do you think they'd be fighting for the right to keep doing it?
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(1) What Wonk said.
(2) There seems to be a division between different branches of government over whether this sort of thing is useful. You get "information" but a lot of it turns out to be crap. Zubaydah said a lot of things when tortured, leading to a lot of unnecessary warnings about attacks that weren't coming. The Army and the FBI, in particular, believe more human methods also work better.
(3) It's no coincidence that the President decided to pick this fight now during the fall of an election year. It's like DHS in '02 all over again. Apparently his skills are slipping, and he didn't think he was on the wrong side of Warner and Graham. (I'm pretty sure he was fine with McCain on the other side.)
