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Old 10-31-2006, 01:26 PM   #4302
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Who could be against 65%?

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Surely no one is against this in principle, except possibly the teachers unions. But how do you make it work? And, as a practical matter, don't you think that the reason teachers unions have been able to bargain for insulation from accountability is that when the negotiations come around, the school districts often lack money and have to give up something else? Let's face it -- one of the reasons to work for an employer that pays less is that you get something else out of the deal, like job security.
No - that is not the problem. The problem is that the Teacher's Unions are just too powerful. This is the government. You don't need to negotiate with unions. You just pass laws and they have to suck it up. The teachers Unions know this. The pay for the legislators with your tax dollars and then the legislators they pay for decide how they are treated. In California the only time there is real negotiation with the teacher's union is when a Republican Governor threatens to veto an education bill.

If you pass the laws then the teachers will have to abide. If they go on strike you fire the teachers that don't show up. Government, unlike businesses, really don't need to negotiate with unions. They have the power of making laws.

If you take on the teacher's union you are accused of being against education. The Governator tried to get a law past the legislator changing tenure in California from two years to four years and the teacher unions stopped it. He then put it in a proposition and the teachers unions spent millions of dollars spreading mininformation (why is Arnold attacking our teachers?) to defeat it and they did.

Almost everything I just proposed that most people agreed on, has been floated out in California and been summarily quashed by the Teacher's Unions. You want to fix education, all you need to do is make it illegal for teachers to unionize.
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