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Old 11-28-2006, 11:27 PM   #1888
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Holy cow. You are incapable of understanding anything other than that one point. You have no idea what I was saying originally and you're stuck on your one point that you have now repeated 700 times. However, you have gone off on about 1,400 tangents to support this point (with stuff that doesn't support it) as well as for seemingly no reason at all. And it is because you are somewhat dim.

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I am Dim? Did you read what you are responding to? GGG accused me of leaving the subject. And he questioned the veracity of my statement when I stated that you said I stuck to that one issue like a bull dog and kept repeating it. Now you are just backing up the argument I was making to GGG by admitting I stuck to the same subject.

We were debating one issue. In your mind you ascribed all sorts of statements to me and argued against them, but those argument were purely a creation of your imagination.

Do I have to go back to the video tape. In bold is all the stuff you ascribed to me that I didn't say, and that was just on your first post.

Me: The first comment I made on the subject:

"I believe in individual responsiblity, not familial or racial responisibilty. Am I responsible for my father's sins? - no. Am I responsible for the sins other people of my race have committed? - no.

Racism cannot be justified because you have been a victim of racism (or that other people of your race have been victims). Racism or racial slurs are either wrong or they are not."

TM:

I'm not going to spend too much time on this because I think it's pointless, but historical racism is responsible for the current state of affairs in this country. The stigma attached to being black permeates every aspect of life, from what socio-economic class you're born into, to your job prospects, to your everyday social interactions (especially with the police). Likewise, the position you're in if you're white, relative to black people, is a result of the same, whether your family came here yesterday or 200 years ago.

So don't give me that load of bullshit about slavery happening long ago and how you weren't personally involved. No one is accusing you of intentionally trying to benefit from it and no one is making you personally responsible for it. But the imprint of the impact of slavery, jim crow and everyday racism from the beginning of the slave trade until now is felt every single day. You can choose to walk around pretending that that time is long over, because the only negative impact you feel is when, as pony said, a black person can feel comfortable making a racial joke at your expense because of the truth of historical racism and who it affects. And look at the fit you throw when someone even mentions the prospect.


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Where did that stuff in bold come from? I had only made one post on the subject and it is right there. Do you always make stuff up and put it in peoples mouth so you can argue against it? You accuse me of going off on tangents when you make stuff up that I said. Please. You are pathetic.
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