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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
What do you think Powell was talking about when he referred to Rummy and Wolfowitz as "fucking crazies"?
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I don't know you tell me. But has Powell said we should have used more troops?
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Franks will always be the good soldier and tow the line publicly, but many reports have come out, ranging from books by retired generals to articles in your favorite rag (the Times), detailing the disputes at the time. Franks started pushing hard for more troops, when he lost the fight, he pushed his generals hard to work with what they had and not ask for more.
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Why will he always tow the party line? Other retired generals are not. Why is he any different? Won't he do what he thinks is in the country's interest? He is from the military not the Republian party. If he says something, why shouldn't we trust him? If you say you trust him, why are you questioning his veracity or his intentions now? Why should we trust what anonymouse sources are saying and not trust this guy you say is competant. .
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy And, by the way, my read is that you're one of the fucking crazies, too - in total denial and looking for rhetoric to save you where logic won't. That's what that ranting and raving "you want us to lose" is all about.
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I don't think it is ranting. I would like us to succeed in Iraq and if we fail I would like us to have tried everything we could have done to win. The success of the occupation is really important. When I hear people saying it is too late, or the eggs are broken and they can't be fixed, that sounds like people who are not committed to winning. It would be one thing if the people saying that could be sure that we can't win, but they cannot be sure. There are no certainties in this thing, so when people talk in certainties, it just says to me that they don't know what they are talking about and are pushing a political agenda. People saying it is too expesive, costing too many lives, I doesn't sound to me like people understand the stakes. If we could succeed, the price we have paid so far is incredibly cheap for what we would accomplish. If we could insure victory by spending ten time the lives and ten times the money we have spent I think it would be worth it. But of course we can't know that.
Do you thing we should give up? I believe if you decide to do something you give it your best shot. So if we have not decided to give up, what is our best shot. What is the way we can insure we did everything we could to win? Why is that so crazy?
