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Originally posted by Spanky
But you are the only one that is disuputing that is omnipresent in Europe. Yes there are exceptions. Some Italians do live in England but that doesn't mean that England and Italy are divided ethno linguisticaly. In Europe, as I have said, 95 percent of the people in Europe live in a country that has the same name as the language that is their native tongue (or have the samne native language as 97% of the people that live in the same political boundaries as they do.) And a lot of people died and it took incredible effort and sacrifice to make the borders the way they are. Yet you seem to be implying that this force isn't pervasive. An exception (or many exceptions) does not disprove this rule.
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The UK has different ethnic groups all under one flag. You were predicting that Scotland would go its own way some day, but it hasn't yet. Nor has Wales. And then there's Northern Ireland. We're not even out of the British Isles. Spain has various issues. France and Spain have the Basques. There's Switzerland and Belgium. There are ethnic Germans all over the place. Poland's borders have moved all over the place, partly for the same reason. Konigsberg was German before it became Russian. Ukraine and other former SSRs are full of Russians. And so on.
So, not just one exception.
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Nine out of ten of border changes in this century have been towards more consistent political borders with ethnolinguistic borders.
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Cite?
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Considering what Germany did during WWII, you don't think the Austrians have been at pains to separate themselves from Germany? They may like the idea of a united uniting with their coethnic bretheren but until the Nazi memory is long gone, they are not going to bring it up.
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I guess that makes them another exception. At some point, you need to find new rules to explain the exceptions.
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There are thousands of ethnolinguistic groups in Subsaharan africa. If it was to divide along ethnolinquistic lines almost every country would have to collapse into at least ten states. Nigeria into like 200.
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Maybe we need to get them all watching American TV. They'll all sound like they're from Ohio.
