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Old 12-20-2006, 02:53 PM   #2264
Cletus Miller
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Originally posted by Spanky
[long post responding to Adder]

You can tell me that it is UnAmerican to torture, you can tell me that it is always immoral to torture, you can tell me that if we use torture that will increase the chance our people will get tortured, but don't try and tell me that there is not a trade off between using torture and saving innocent lives. The connection is just way too obvious.
Okay. I don't necessarily disagree with you with respect to bona fide Al Qaeda members/operatives/whatever (e.g. KSM). But what about someone who isn't, but was arrested/captured based on either bad information or wrong place/wrong time? With your basic stance on this, how do you avoid torturing the genuinely uninvolved?

Or do we have to torture anyone who might be linked to Al Qaeda (by proximity or bad information or whatever) in order to establish who is and who isn't? Doesn't torture become counter productive (even for the purposes you state) if used too broadly?
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