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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Suppose that there were two types of people in the media advocating withdrawal from Iraq:
(1) the liberal morons who are ignorant (they don't understand how important it is that we prevail, or how cheap it would be in blood and treasure), deceitful (they mischaracterize what's happening there to fool the public), unpatriotic (willing to sacrifice the interests of the country), and partisan (they just want to make Bush look bad); and
(2) another crowd who are well-informed about the Middle East and Iraq, who have come to the sincere conclusion that our continued presence there is making things worse, and that only by withdrawing will national reconciliation and an end to the 1insurgency be possible, who think this is in the best interests of the country, and who have said this even when they worry that it's not in the best of interests of their political party, be it Republican or Democrat.
If that were the case, how would you try to tell the different between the two groups?
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The sarcasm in your post seems to indicate that most of the people, or at least many people that are opposed to the war, take the view of option two.
In order for someone to fit into option two they would have to:
1) think that even a somewhat stable somewhat democratic government in Iraq would be an almost invaluable benefit and asset for the Iraqi people, the people of the Middle East and the United States.
2) They would have to truly believe that pulling out our troops now would make that scenario more likely than if we kept them there. In other words keeping our presence there, increasing our presence there, or some other option would make achieving that goal less likely than if we pulled out now.
Unless they complied with those two factors it seems to me that they fall into option one. I don't know many people who have opposed the war or who are for an immediate or gradual but fast pullout that fall into the latter category . I think it is pretty easy to tell if they do by the way they complain about the war.
How many people have you heard say; "it is extremely important that we succeed in Iraq, and the best strategy for achieving success is pulling out."? Can you name more than three?