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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You are as delusional about the Pistons as ppnyc is about her looks.
1. Laimbeer tackles Bird. There is absolutely no other way to look at it. He grabs him by the neck and bends him over backward. He wasn't falling and just grabbing someone by reflex to keep himself up. He is taking Bird down and doing it in such a way that could cause serious harm. If you don't think that is an intentional dirty play, you're either lying or retarded. I know you play ball. If that happened to you, you would lay the guy out.
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From the baseline view- Rodman and Laimbeer are in the air. When Bird starts his move Rodman gets undercut and goes flying. Laimbeer in coming down on Bird- and Laimbeer is a big guy. To this point there's nothing wrong- agree? You do a fake in the key, your goal is to get guys to land on you.
Now Laimbeer grabs Bird- you say to pull him down- but this is a guy who is clearly off balance and falling. Look again at Rodman- there are big bodies flying all around. I say it might be instinct- or more likely he is trying to make sure Bird doesn't get a shot off. NBA rule, at least then, was if you foul someone make sure they don't get the shot off. It's not possible to you that is what happened? Keep in mind it is a really big guy who is falling while it's happening.
In the context of the hate between the Piston and Celtics bigs, Bird's reaction is predictable. But I believe Bird's reaction and the Celtic toady announcer has more to do with this being remembered as a dirty play, then the reality.
AND I do admit I'm really biased so maybe I'm wrong- but next time how about a Thurgreed/ Yankees analog instead of this PPNYC stuff?
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2. Laimbeer threw more elbows than anyone before Mutumbo perfected it. In the second clip, instead of boxing out clean, he leads with his elbow right into Parish's throat. And as the announcer said, it was probably the 500th time he did it.
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he pushed an elbow back to hold Parrish back. It was blind- he wasn't aiming for the throat. AND you know that any strong rebounder takes and gives those dozens of times every game.
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s his whole game. Cheap shot you over and over and then flop like a fucking fish when someone got frustrated and started playing as or more aggressively. He thought he was brilliant with the theatrics and the faces because he thought that getting under someone's skin was the best way to gain an advantage. He was a fucking asshole.
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He led the NBA in rebounding once and would have done it again if we hadn't gotten Rodman. He had the best (only?) 3 point touch for centers back then. And every other arena hated him 100%- which is probably the main reason we loved him.
