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Originally posted by Penske_Account
NY had a republican mayor but city council (or wahever its called) was still Dem controlled and the city was still beholden to the liberal teachers unions. Further, I would posit, the police and criminal justice system has so much long standing embedded racism that the system needs to be overhauled (and just the election of the R mayor doesn't do that). And in advance, Bloomberg is a RiNO of the worst kind.
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City council? In New York? Please. While other cities talk about a strong mayor/weak mayor system, New York's mayor is a dictator. Who controls city council is meaningless (as Rudy proved repeatedly). And Rudy was enthusiastically backed by cops and the police unions, at least at the beginning. Read Edward Conlon's Blue Blood for (among other things) a fascinating discussion of the history of the NYPD.
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Chicago and cook county are D, period. The Daleys not only control and oppress that populace but by themselves and their minions infect that national political process. Ceaucescu style justice would be the only justice for them. As for the cops in Chicago, I am not sure whom they vote for, although imo most are probably not literate enough to read the ballot and probably are instructed to vote by proxy coming out of the Cook County Demo machine HQ.
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I defer to the wisdom of others on Chicago, but I would note that the citizens of The Hog Butcher To The World tried voting for a reform mayor after Daley the Elder passed, and seem to have chosen to revert back to the machine.
And, please. Big city cops turned out in droves for Nixon, Reagan, Bush The Elder (at least in 1988), and W. One of the most effective symbols of the ineptidude of Michael "Mike Only In The Primaries" Dukakis was the picture of GHWB surrounded by uniformed Boston cops after the police union endorsed him. (Willie Horton and the Boston Harbor ad kept this from being number one, but still.)
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
As for the R machines, name major US cities with R machines or even R control over both the executive and legislative branches. Nassau county/LI is not a city and no one outside of Nassau county gives a rat arse about it, further it is or was as much mob controlled (and I am not sure they are partisan) as it is politically controlled, and that includes D'Amato, a shitstain, regardless of party.
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How many million people live in Nassau County? And Pothole Al controlled the GOP in NY until Pataki was elected, so I wouldn't dismiss him, either.
As for your specific question about the GOP-controlled major cities, I don't know. I would guess that Miami is, but it would just be a guess. I suspect that there aren't too many. But the abuses that can come from machine politics can be just as bad in smaller towns and rural areas -- the Long machine in Lousiana didn't control any major cities (a rival controlled New Orleans, IIRC).
