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Old 01-22-2007, 01:42 PM   #3659
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Ah, shit.

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
what is the criteria for MVP. It would seem to me it should be the player who is the most important to his team, and where the team is great.

Miami w/o Shaq is an ordinary team. Last year and this year.

The Pistons had the best record in the East this year- the Pistons, a team w/o a superstar- then Chauncey goes out for 8 games. We go 2-6.
I tend to be a little predictable when it comes to my picks for MVP. I think the guys who put up fantastic numbers and who carry their team offensively and aren't a liability defensively -- and who could do the same with any team -- deserve to win the award. To me, it's guys like Duncan, Wade, McGrady, Kobe, Dirk, Arenas, LeBron and 'Melo. The guys who have the ball when the game is on the line, the guys who everyone knows will have the ball and take the last shot to win it. The ones with all the pressure, who take it and still succeed. Those guys are MVPs to me.

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I suppose the Suns w/o Nash would be closer to ordinary, but I don't think they'd fall as much as the Heat and Pistons did.
I think Nash is a great player. But he has so much talent on that team to pass to. I don't think he should be MVP, but we've covered this.

I don't think Shaq should anymore either. He's an enormous presence and attracts defenses, making things easier for his teammates, but he's now bordering on immobile and doesn't try half the time.

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
C. Webb watch: 2-1 since the signing.
I think he won't hurt the Pistons until it comes time for the playoffs and they have to play a quality team. Like I said, decent numbers in quarters 1-3 but gone in the 4th, no go-to move and never wants to take a big shot.

But the Pistons have bigger problems. Flip Saunders sucks. Let's go back to that conversation we had awhile back about the differences in playing styles after Brown left. They went from a hard-nosed, defensive, total team to a bunch of soft motherfuckers who wanted to push and score and talked about the freedom they had to really play after Brown left. Now, if they played in the West, they would have no shot of beating any good Western Conference team in the playoffs.

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