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Originally posted by Spanky
Were you not reading what I wrote? Yes, some things effect the overall scores, but you are looking at the difference between the previous year's test and this year's test. In addition, you would know what sort of improvement to expect because you would have similar test scores from similar classes in similar neighborhoods.
Other teachers would be teaching the same type of class in the same school or in other schools, so you would compare the teacher's performance. Obviously, in the class where the teachers had other factors helping them with the education (like parent involement) you would expect better test scores. But you would now what kind of progress you would expect in certain types of classes by how their peers perform.
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You might, but you might not. Many of those factors (that I linked to) could change from year to year. Many have to do with decisions made by a school's administration, rather than a teacher. You can see how administrators might prefer to can teachers rather than admit a screw-up, but that doesn't mean it'll work for students.
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What other criteria (besides improvement in test scores as compared to classes in similar situations) could you use to determine if the teacher was doing their job?
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Many, many posts ago, I made the point that it is very difficult to tell whether teachers are doing their jobs well. I continue to believe that's the case. There aren't good objective criteria to use. To do it well takes a lot of work and a subjective evaluation. I don't really trust the public-school administrators I've known to do this well.
It's just a problem with no good answers. It's the nature of the beast.
