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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I know I will regret weighing in to the neverending Spanky education harangue.
(1) I think your perspective on testing is just pure mimetic ideological regurgitation uninformed by even a passing familiarity with reality.
(2) You grossly overstate the extent to which social promotion occurs (having fallen out of favor about a decade ago).
(3) While I have nothing against teacher review and terminations for non-performance in principle, I think you once again have a knee-jerk tendency to genuflect to every test you see.
(4) and (5) I also favor Mom and Apple Pie.
(6) Regardless of (1)-(5), above, I'd happily concede all points to get to (6). At the end of the day, the more time for one-on-one and small group teaching, particularly in elementary school, the better the education. That's my simplistic recipe.
(7) Sure, why not. But I'd get there just with (6).
So, show us the money and you win. Now, can we talk about something else?
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I know I will regret weighing in to the never-ending Spanky education harangue.
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People criticize my posts, but is there any substance to any of this post? All this post says, is "I don't like what you say and your argument is ideological." Is there any analysis, evidentiary support, or even a linear argument to back up any of these claims? Has this changed from the discussoin board to the emotional venting board?
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
(1) I think your perspective on testing is just pure mimetic ideological regurgitation uninformed by even a passing familiarity with reality.
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If you take out the word "testing" and changed it with "abortion" you would never know that this statement wasn't about abortion. In other words, there is absolutely nothing in this post that differentiates if from an unsubstantiated harangue about any possible political subject.
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (2) You grossly overstate the extent to which social promotion occurs (having fallen out of favor about a decade ago). And for the record, in the post you were addressing I never made any statements as to the extent of social promotion, I just said that it should be ended.
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Are we just supposed to take your word for it? Are you going to say anything to back up your claim? Again, you could substitute the word "social promotion" with incidents of assaults on abortion doctors and you would never know that this was a discussion about education. You could slap this criticism on any post made on this board, and its effect would always be the same. It would simply show that GGG doesn’t like your argument and thinks it is faulty. Why don’t you try and, I don’t know, maybe tell us something substantive, instead of what we could already surmise: that you are not going to agree with the post.
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (3) While I have nothing against teacher review and terminations for non-performance in principle, I think you once again have a knee-jerk tendency to genuflect to every test you see.
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Any argument to support this? Any evidence of my genuflecting? Any evidence of why my reliance on annual testing is misplaced? Any evidence or logical analysis to support the idea that tests don’t actually help that much, or cause damage? Thanks for sharing GGG, but now that you have vented is there anything intelligent you would like to say?
Adder made this claim about my posts “The whole stupid exchange is because you showed up, proclaimed truth, intentionally implied that there was no ambiguity in what you were saying, and made proposterous assertions of fact.”
Adder, doesn’t this criticism really apply to this post by GGG?
