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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't think Diane cares so much about these standards of decorum. I think she objects to what Carter said for other reasons. But she can speak for herself.
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I don't care about "standards of decorum" like which leader flubbed a bow/curtesy or that kind of gaffe. It's the idea that our ex President is suggesting the U.S. (in cohort with the Zionists) is out to get the Palis. One can disagree about what the U.S. does to deter terrorism (whether it be cutting off funding to terrorist organizations) and such but that's what it is -- the U.S. trying to do something about the never-ending conflict there and, now, attacks on our own soil (ostensibly) because of the Israel/Palestine conflict. If someone thinks the U.S. is fucking up this mission, I'm fine with that -- there are a billion people out there claiming the U.S. has "now radicalized Muslims" by invading Iraq. But to suggest the U.S. isn't trying to deter terrorism (by not supporting terrorist leaders/organizations voted into power) and that, instead, it is out to get Palis as some sort of revenge or otherwise...is irresponsible. He didn't say "I don't agree with the U.S. government's approach to the new leader". He claimed the U.S. joined up with Israel with the intention to just punish these people. Shocking. And dangerous.
You say you want to talk about things of more "substance" and not decorum? Well, I think Carter's words express the big (substantive) question, Ty -- how should our government approach blood that is shed (including our's) in order to get Jews out of Israel/Palestine, or in the name of Allah against the evil U.S. empire. Carter suggests we aren't trying to stop bloodshed, but simply punishing people for voting a certain way. He has also said (infamously and I'm sure you read this):
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it is imperative, that the general Arab community and all significant Palestinian groups make it clear that they will end the suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism when international laws and the ultimate goals of the Roadmap for Peace are accepted by Israel.
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Even Carter has admitted the poor choice of words here. There's plenty of similar "gaffes" the man has made if you want to call them that. But I think these "gaffes" reflect his instinctive views about terrorists blowing up babies to get what they want out of Israel. His tap on the hand to baby killers is "you guys need to express louder to your victims that you'll stop if they do A, B and C; only then will your baby killing be effective." It's the old "how much do we accede" to terrorists issue - who is acceding, who isn't, etc.
