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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I don't view the issue as trivial. We've ceded the moral high ground that we were able to effectively use as a negotiating point with other countries. I remember reading an editorial a few years ago by a conservative who loved the Miranda law because all the cop movies and tv shows, shown around the world, recited a list of rights to criminals. People living in repressive regimes could see that in our country even criminals had rights that the average citizen in their shithole did not have. We've blown that.
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You're missing my distinction. Criminals in this country are us. People planning to bomb us in madrassas in Afghanistan are not us. The former deserves avery imaginable protection. the latter deserves as many as we can practicably give him when we capture him, and less if he's got information we can use to catch more of his kind.
You're mixing a domestic issue with a foreign policy/international war matter.
Again, this is an Us v. Them situation. Not a "people who believe in the Constitution" vs. "people who do not" issue. But I can see why the Left wants to conflate them. It loses very badly when the issue is framed in its proper context.
