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Old 10-05-2007, 01:51 PM   #3244
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Every argument you make is exactly like arguments that were made to stop the CIA from working with "criminals." We should be better than that!
It's a kill or be killed situation and this whole torture fixation is, well, IMO, a goofy sideshow.

I respect Ty and Gatti's moral positions on the issue, but the govt is already amoral, immoral, (insert other description of soulless, heartless behemoth) already, so this attention to one minor facet of all the dastardly shit we do strikes me as disingenuous and opportunistic.

Ty and Gattis care about the issue, but the people using it for political ends couldn't care less. And have been involved in and supported far worse.
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