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Old 10-16-2007, 06:26 PM   #3385
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I don't think BW is a factor in us winning or losing. They're just a profiteer.

But as to winning or losing, this will sound cynical, but I don't think there was ever a goal of leaving Iraq. I think Bush and Cheney viewed the war as an opportunity to put us into the Middle East permanently, with no chance of subsequent administrations taking a more isolationist approach.

The Cheney Doctrine is an offensive one, and the only way to ensure some form of that posture remains no matter who is in office is by putting us in a quagmire we can't leave. They had every intention of taking over Iraq and keeping forces there, and in charge, indefinitely. It just hasn't worked out as easily as expected.

Hussein's warning that the war would never end is coming true. And who knew the country and "insurgents" better.*

*Most of the people branded insurgents are not.
I think you're right. I have yet to hear a definition of "winning" in Iraq.
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