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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
[Though we torture people, unlike we Pol Pot and Stalin we do it in a sophisticated way -- torture is OK if it works.]
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Your faith that torture works is disturbing, not least because the conversation started with a quote from a retired Admiral who said otherwise -- he's the guy you called an egghead. You offer a realistic pragmatism that is utterly impervious to contrary evidence. Why do you think torture works? Because we need to do it. Why do we need to do it? Because it works.
All this talk about how it "works" is, among other things, incredibly short-sighted. You're not going to win the so-called war with Islamofascism by torturing suspected terrorists until they rat out their cohorts. It's a war for hearts and minds, and when you start torturing people, you surrender this country's biggest advantage, the notion that we actually stand for something other than sucking as many petrochemicals into our SUVs for as little as possible.
What you say about McCain is just sad.