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Old 11-13-2007, 12:56 AM   #3884
Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
We tell other nations all the time that they cannot have nukes.

Hypocritical? You betcha.

Sound policy? Absolutely.
That's not actually the deal we have with them. There are a series of non-proliferation treaties under which we -- and other nuclear nations -- agreed to move to give up nukes over time, etc. Your point about hypocrisy is well taken. The idea that we can forego our obligations under these treaties but expect other nations to live up to theirs -- it doesn't work so well. As for sound policy, if you want other countries to cooperate with a non-proliferation regime, they don't respect the hypocrisy.

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The anti-American brigade - moving ever so slowly to the front of the Dem party - is so blind in their hatred if Bush that they ignore that the USA, while clearly not mistake-proof, also exerts its power with the utmost care and highest discipline.
You are sadly misinformed about the Democratic party. As for "the utmost care and highest discipline," you haven't been paying attention to what we've been doing in Iraq, which makes a mockery of your words from top to bottom, but the rest of the world has.

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I actually trust our government - and most especially our military - to almost always use whatever force or action is necessary, and that is it. Of course there will be mistakes, but that is the unfortunate side effect of volume: it's a bitch being the policeman of the world.
"necessary"? How can you use that word after our invasion of Iraq? You've got to come up with something else, because that's a joke. Try, "we thought it was a good idea at the time, kinda," although that gets you into trouble with the "what a good policeman for the world we are" thing,

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PS - if these Europeans, other than Great Britain, really loathed our military so much, they'd raise their fucking taxes and actually build a useful standing Army.
What would Europe do with a larger standing Army? They don't want to invade Iran or North Korea.
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