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Old 12-13-2007, 11:08 AM   #4498
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
he almost got me too. is it just slave, club and me that really care about the substnative issues?

the problem is the moral outrage that torture carries for those guys. now I'm wondering it maybe it isn't just a bit, a tiney tiny little bit, contrived.
No, I think to his credit, Ty views torture as a real substantive issue, which it is. Politically, however, it is being used for leverage, which robs it of any credibility in the national discourse. I think his moral outrage is real. I just don't think the politicians using the issue for gain have any real moral outrage.

He has a point. Torture is something we ought to debate, for obvious reasons. the problem is, as you've cited, the people bringing that debate are not serious about it and everyone knows it.
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