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Old 02-18-2008, 12:45 AM   #1510
Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally posted by Spanky
You have defined failure as anything but a passage of all the laws which the Bush administration wanted the Iraqi parliament to pass.
You're confusing what I said with the words Sebby tries to put in my mouth. If you look at what people like Kagan and President Bush said when they proposed the surge, you will see that what they said needed to happen hasn't happened. It would be silly to suggest that absolutely nothing good has come of the surge, so I won't. But by the benchmarks proposed by its supporters at the outset, it has been a failure.
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